Andy. What are you doing with this? I’ve been a subscriber for 3+ years and greatly admire you and your work.
But is there any evidence that this individual was part of the plot or planning to commit the horrible murder of Charlie? Or even expressing any online sentiments of hatred against Charlie, or others?
Your story and others indicate that they have cooperative fully with police investigators.
I’m just surprised you’re doing this. It appears to be aggressive doxxing and shining a spotlight on an individual and their personal life including their extended innocent birth family. Yet this individual currently appears to be an innocent associate of the assassin, not a participant.
Ask yourself this: If a well-known liberal commentator and author was assassinated on a college campus, and the suspected killer was arrested, how would the media handle it? Especially if there was corroborating evidence — including cooperation from the suspect’s family.
The mainstream media would swarm the suspect’s friends and family. If the suspect’s roommate was, say, a Proud Boy, what do you think the media would do with that piece of information? Or if the roommate had been a campus volunteer in Donald Trump’s presidential campaign?
Would the media have backed off these details — or pursued them? When is it doxxing, and when is it reporting?
There is something going on in American culture related to the transgender movement. Only one way to find out. Ask questions, seek answers.
What is he doing? His job, which is reporting. The personal connections of the assassin are relevant, and there was no call to take up arms against this male. I believe actual reporting has been rare for so many years now that it's a shock to read the real thing.
Im actually ambivalent about this now that I have come across evidence that Tyler Robinson may actually not be guilty. He may not be the shooter, thus details of Luna would not be relevant on the basis of Tyler being the shooter. This may be a situation of the media, and the feds, assigning guilt to someone before sufficient evidence of they are responsible for the crime. Trials are important. I should have said "alleged shooter", not "shooter."
This is anecdotal, and may or may not be relevant to Twiggs' life. But here it is:
I am Mormon. I have friends and acquaintances who are also Mormon, many who are Protestant or Catholic. In my experience, every single time a teen or 20-something accuses their parents of kicking them out, the reality is exactly the opposite. This is true in literally 100% of the situations that I have direct knowledge about.
The parents desperately want their child to come back. The parents did everything they could to try to be understanding and tolerant. It's the child who is filled with hate, anger, and dysfunction.
The kind of statement Twiggs put on Reddit was calculated. It was given to an audience that would not scrutinize, and which brings a flood of sympathy and attention. It is a strategy often employed even when untethered to reality. It is a classic "I am a victim, so love me and despise the people and organizations I tell you to despise" strategy. It is a status-builder and recruitment activity.
Yes. This is absolutely anecdotal. And likewise, "calculated." It is given to an audience... well, that actually will more likely scrutinize it, but with the intent to defend the reputation of the Mormon cult. One of my grandmothers was an absolute witch, a "catholic" witch, to be precise, and what she did to some of her children was absolutely loathsome. "Your experience" is not sufficient to dismiss the fact that there are indeed many Mormon, Protestant, and Catholic parents, who are exactly the way Twiggs describes his. Given the history of Christianity and Mormonism in relationship to homosexuality and transgenderism, his story is not at all an anomaly or unlikely.
It is quite possible that Twiggs isn't being honest about it, its possible there is some truth to it, but not entirely true. Like maybe he wasn't kicked out, but rather they did essentially suggest he was possessed, or at the minimum, suggest that there was something "sinful" about his sexuality, and he choice to leave that hostile environment. Regardless, the way you a portraying him is unjustified. And there is plenty of reason to dislike the Mormon Church without Twigg's story.
I am arguably "trans" and I am bisexual. My childhood was relatively idyllic. The "trauma" that Twiggs experienced was from a family that clearly demonized Twiggs' sexuality that was already present. One of the biggest "influencers" in his life was the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Do you hope someone "goes after" it?
Haven’t many, many people “gone after” the Mormon Church and yet they seem to survive the vitriol and flourish? I’m a Christian myself, formerly Catholic, and I certainly get the harm that can be inflicted on those that live differently. However I survived, so many of us do, and went on to flourish myself and then, surprisingly, come back to Christ. I would have hotly debated that possibility at 20, 30, 40 but then Christ stepped in when I was on my knees, completely defeated, and saved me. It’s sad that so many young people don’t make it to that point of (for me) sanity.
You are a Christian. Catholics are Christian. You have thus always been a Christian? Maybe you temporarily lapsed? The majority of people in the United States are Christian. 99% of congress is christian. Swearing fealty and obedience to an imaginary being who supposedly threatened those who chose not to obey with torture is not a high standard for "sanity." But I guess desperate times can make for desperate measures.
But what did your comment have to do with whether someone should "go after" the Mormon Church?
Why was he angry at you to begin with? No one deserves the torture that is indicated in the gospels. Eternal life should be an inalienable right of all conscious beings. Any "god" who would claim dominion over a soul would be immoral and not deserving of reverence. And it is immoral to evangelize it.
I'm sure Stalin saved and "forgave" some people too. So gracious! Sounds like you may have thought you left Christianity at one point, but Christianity never left you.
God was never angry with me. I was angry with my spouse, who I felt was failing me and I felt unwanted, unloved & alone. God brought me through, helped me let go of my anger, showed me forgiveness. I had not been a model of good behavior either, coming from an extremely dysfunctional alcoholic family. I’d been in recovery from that for a long time, but I was still critical, impatient & unforgiving. I was not a believer at all. God at that point in my life was a vague concept. That all changed from one minute to the next at a cellular level. It’s hard to explain- to me it’s a sacred mystery but I’m so grateful for that flash of understanding & clarity. I’m not telling you what to believe, I’m just telling you my experience. It’s changed my life in amazing ways. I’m still married to my husband, love him more deeply every day and I don’t understand God but I feel him near me all the time.
The level of rot and subversion in our society already is just so deep. How would you even begin to help this young person sort themselves out?
What’s most troubling to me is that he seems to acknowledge he could go on living his life as he sees fit under the Trump administration. He seems to understan that he’s got issues of his own that he needs to sort out.
How is this a crisis? Because trans isn’t celebrated? Because it’s not shoved down kids throats starting in elementary school? The terrifying truth is that we’ve allowed our education system to socially condition itself these kids to believe this craziness. I have no idea how to undo it.
Now people should resist letting this lead to bigotry about “trans” people. I am arguably “trans.” However I do not believe in the ethics or metaphysics of the dominant trans cult. So while I’d take the opportunity to transform into a woman if I could, I don’t think the technology exists for that. Nor am I particularly distressed psychologically about the body I have. I generally accept my body and don’t feel altering it would be worth the risks. I am a male, and nothing I can do with the technology that exists can make me a female. Nor can I just “identify” as a woman and become one. Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be a lot of “trans” voices, or people who support trans people, (or for that matter people who are opposed to the dominant trans ideology), who seem interested in promoting my perspective. Instead, a very toxic metaphysical and ethical ideology is being promoted that I think is damaging to both trans people and the greater society.
With that all said, I think Andy has shown himself to be a journalist with a lot of integrity. Just as I don’t want to see bigotry toward trans people because of this, I don’t want to see people hate Andy and other journalists who report on it honestly and without malice.
Thank you Andy. Reading your reporting, i learn more of CKirk's assassin n his environment than the whole disclosure of information abt Crooks who attempted to asassinate DJTrump. But... oh no, it was no cover-up! What a farce the FBI was under Biden. I'm sure elements of that era still remain there today.
Thank you for your reporting. And your courage.
Thank you, Andy, for more great reporting
Your reporting is excellent. Thank you for info. that is not being covered by mainstream. Will pass this on.
Thanks Andy
Well done.
Very glad I became a subscriber, Andy. Good work
Thank you!
Great reporting on this.
Thank you for providing important context to this assassination
Andy. What are you doing with this? I’ve been a subscriber for 3+ years and greatly admire you and your work.
But is there any evidence that this individual was part of the plot or planning to commit the horrible murder of Charlie? Or even expressing any online sentiments of hatred against Charlie, or others?
Your story and others indicate that they have cooperative fully with police investigators.
I’m just surprised you’re doing this. It appears to be aggressive doxxing and shining a spotlight on an individual and their personal life including their extended innocent birth family. Yet this individual currently appears to be an innocent associate of the assassin, not a participant.
Thoughts?
Ask yourself this: If a well-known liberal commentator and author was assassinated on a college campus, and the suspected killer was arrested, how would the media handle it? Especially if there was corroborating evidence — including cooperation from the suspect’s family.
The mainstream media would swarm the suspect’s friends and family. If the suspect’s roommate was, say, a Proud Boy, what do you think the media would do with that piece of information? Or if the roommate had been a campus volunteer in Donald Trump’s presidential campaign?
Would the media have backed off these details — or pursued them? When is it doxxing, and when is it reporting?
There is something going on in American culture related to the transgender movement. Only one way to find out. Ask questions, seek answers.
What is he doing? His job, which is reporting. The personal connections of the assassin are relevant, and there was no call to take up arms against this male. I believe actual reporting has been rare for so many years now that it's a shock to read the real thing.
Good morning. My apologies that I wasn’t more clear.
I am asking regarding this article highlighting not the shooter but the roommate/apparent trans girlfriend.
That’s the individual who may be an innocent third-party. And their family certainly is.
So images of Luna’s personal information, family details including family and high school graduation.
Why are those individuals- particularly Luna’s family- being thrust into the spotlight during such volatile times?
I agree with everyone 1000% regarding reporting information aboutthe shooter.
But apparently doxxing a third-party’s family? That’s a different tone than I have seen in Andy‘s work over the last three years.
Would love to hear Andy’s thoughts. With respect and support for the truth.
With respect
Because those details are evidence of who *he* (Luna) is and are relevant to determining the motivation of the shooter, given other evidence.
Im actually ambivalent about this now that I have come across evidence that Tyler Robinson may actually not be guilty. He may not be the shooter, thus details of Luna would not be relevant on the basis of Tyler being the shooter. This may be a situation of the media, and the feds, assigning guilt to someone before sufficient evidence of they are responsible for the crime. Trials are important. I should have said "alleged shooter", not "shooter."
There it is again; childhood trauma seemingly leading to gender dysphoria. I wonder what Twiggs did for money after he was kicked out of the house.
It certainly appears like a lot more radicalization of Tyler Robinson will be found, as well. I hope someone goes after the influencers in his life.
Thanks for keeping the truth alive, Andy!
This is anecdotal, and may or may not be relevant to Twiggs' life. But here it is:
I am Mormon. I have friends and acquaintances who are also Mormon, many who are Protestant or Catholic. In my experience, every single time a teen or 20-something accuses their parents of kicking them out, the reality is exactly the opposite. This is true in literally 100% of the situations that I have direct knowledge about.
The parents desperately want their child to come back. The parents did everything they could to try to be understanding and tolerant. It's the child who is filled with hate, anger, and dysfunction.
The kind of statement Twiggs put on Reddit was calculated. It was given to an audience that would not scrutinize, and which brings a flood of sympathy and attention. It is a strategy often employed even when untethered to reality. It is a classic "I am a victim, so love me and despise the people and organizations I tell you to despise" strategy. It is a status-builder and recruitment activity.
Yes. This is absolutely anecdotal. And likewise, "calculated." It is given to an audience... well, that actually will more likely scrutinize it, but with the intent to defend the reputation of the Mormon cult. One of my grandmothers was an absolute witch, a "catholic" witch, to be precise, and what she did to some of her children was absolutely loathsome. "Your experience" is not sufficient to dismiss the fact that there are indeed many Mormon, Protestant, and Catholic parents, who are exactly the way Twiggs describes his. Given the history of Christianity and Mormonism in relationship to homosexuality and transgenderism, his story is not at all an anomaly or unlikely.
It is quite possible that Twiggs isn't being honest about it, its possible there is some truth to it, but not entirely true. Like maybe he wasn't kicked out, but rather they did essentially suggest he was possessed, or at the minimum, suggest that there was something "sinful" about his sexuality, and he choice to leave that hostile environment. Regardless, the way you a portraying him is unjustified. And there is plenty of reason to dislike the Mormon Church without Twigg's story.
I am arguably "trans" and I am bisexual. My childhood was relatively idyllic. The "trauma" that Twiggs experienced was from a family that clearly demonized Twiggs' sexuality that was already present. One of the biggest "influencers" in his life was the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Do you hope someone "goes after" it?
Haven’t many, many people “gone after” the Mormon Church and yet they seem to survive the vitriol and flourish? I’m a Christian myself, formerly Catholic, and I certainly get the harm that can be inflicted on those that live differently. However I survived, so many of us do, and went on to flourish myself and then, surprisingly, come back to Christ. I would have hotly debated that possibility at 20, 30, 40 but then Christ stepped in when I was on my knees, completely defeated, and saved me. It’s sad that so many young people don’t make it to that point of (for me) sanity.
You are a Christian. Catholics are Christian. You have thus always been a Christian? Maybe you temporarily lapsed? The majority of people in the United States are Christian. 99% of congress is christian. Swearing fealty and obedience to an imaginary being who supposedly threatened those who chose not to obey with torture is not a high standard for "sanity." But I guess desperate times can make for desperate measures.
But what did your comment have to do with whether someone should "go after" the Mormon Church?
But yes, my comment was about the endurance of the Mormon church.
I explored different beliefs but came back to Christianity. Your imaginary being, the God of my understanding, saved me and forgave me.
Why was he angry at you to begin with? No one deserves the torture that is indicated in the gospels. Eternal life should be an inalienable right of all conscious beings. Any "god" who would claim dominion over a soul would be immoral and not deserving of reverence. And it is immoral to evangelize it.
I'm sure Stalin saved and "forgave" some people too. So gracious! Sounds like you may have thought you left Christianity at one point, but Christianity never left you.
God was never angry with me. I was angry with my spouse, who I felt was failing me and I felt unwanted, unloved & alone. God brought me through, helped me let go of my anger, showed me forgiveness. I had not been a model of good behavior either, coming from an extremely dysfunctional alcoholic family. I’d been in recovery from that for a long time, but I was still critical, impatient & unforgiving. I was not a believer at all. God at that point in my life was a vague concept. That all changed from one minute to the next at a cellular level. It’s hard to explain- to me it’s a sacred mystery but I’m so grateful for that flash of understanding & clarity. I’m not telling you what to believe, I’m just telling you my experience. It’s changed my life in amazing ways. I’m still married to my husband, love him more deeply every day and I don’t understand God but I feel him near me all the time.
We will have to wait to see what his story is. It is merely a guessing game at this time.
The level of rot and subversion in our society already is just so deep. How would you even begin to help this young person sort themselves out?
What’s most troubling to me is that he seems to acknowledge he could go on living his life as he sees fit under the Trump administration. He seems to understan that he’s got issues of his own that he needs to sort out.
How is this a crisis? Because trans isn’t celebrated? Because it’s not shoved down kids throats starting in elementary school? The terrifying truth is that we’ve allowed our education system to socially condition itself these kids to believe this craziness. I have no idea how to undo it.
Now people should resist letting this lead to bigotry about “trans” people. I am arguably “trans.” However I do not believe in the ethics or metaphysics of the dominant trans cult. So while I’d take the opportunity to transform into a woman if I could, I don’t think the technology exists for that. Nor am I particularly distressed psychologically about the body I have. I generally accept my body and don’t feel altering it would be worth the risks. I am a male, and nothing I can do with the technology that exists can make me a female. Nor can I just “identify” as a woman and become one. Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be a lot of “trans” voices, or people who support trans people, (or for that matter people who are opposed to the dominant trans ideology), who seem interested in promoting my perspective. Instead, a very toxic metaphysical and ethical ideology is being promoted that I think is damaging to both trans people and the greater society.
With that all said, I think Andy has shown himself to be a journalist with a lot of integrity. Just as I don’t want to see bigotry toward trans people because of this, I don’t want to see people hate Andy and other journalists who report on it honestly and without malice.
Andy, who taught him how to make a shot like that? I bet it was that trans group in SLC. Great work.
Brilliant work.
Does Adam Cochran identify himself as "leftist"?
Thank you Andy. Reading your reporting, i learn more of CKirk's assassin n his environment than the whole disclosure of information abt Crooks who attempted to asassinate DJTrump. But... oh no, it was no cover-up! What a farce the FBI was under Biden. I'm sure elements of that era still remain there today.
Stay safe Andy. 👏👍👌🫶from🇬🇧